Servus zusammen,
woher kommen eigentlich die Edelstahlbeplankungen unserer Fahrzeuge? Die Firma Läpple aus Heilbronn hat wohl die Werkzeuge geliefert. Ich hatte vor einiger Zeit bei Läpple mal angefragt. Leider gab es keine konkreten Unterlagen mehr aber es wurde mir bestätigt, dass Läpple Maschinen geliefert hat.
Wer weiß mehr? Woher kommen die Formen für die GFK Karosserie? Auch von Läpple? Könnte sein, schaut mal auf die Homepage:
http://www.laepple.de/
Läpple, nur mal so...
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Läpple, nur mal so...
Mit besten Grüßen
Chris & 3921
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Stainless Steel Illusion meint zu den GFK-Formen (Kapitel 6, "Star Wars" Assembly Line):
"The construction of a De Lorean began in the tall single-story Body Press Building, where the plastic underbodies are made. These internal structures of the De Loreans have two halves which were made of fiberglass in molds that were built and maintained in the De Lorean factory."
Demnach müssten die Gußformen in Dunmurry hergestellt und gewartet worden sein.
Die Fiberglass-Platten aus denen dann die Karosserie gemacht wurde kamen von Vetrotex Saint.Gobain.
Weiter hinten heissts dann, nachdem jede Menge anderer Zulieferer aufgeführt sind:
"And then there was that terribly important element of the De Lorean, the stainless steel body panels, stamped by Lapple in West Germany from sheets that were cut and brushed by BSC Stainless of Sheffield, England."
Viele Grüße
Peter
"The construction of a De Lorean began in the tall single-story Body Press Building, where the plastic underbodies are made. These internal structures of the De Loreans have two halves which were made of fiberglass in molds that were built and maintained in the De Lorean factory."
Demnach müssten die Gußformen in Dunmurry hergestellt und gewartet worden sein.
Die Fiberglass-Platten aus denen dann die Karosserie gemacht wurde kamen von Vetrotex Saint.Gobain.
Weiter hinten heissts dann, nachdem jede Menge anderer Zulieferer aufgeführt sind:
"And then there was that terribly important element of the De Lorean, the stainless steel body panels, stamped by Lapple in West Germany from sheets that were cut and brushed by BSC Stainless of Sheffield, England."
Viele Grüße
Peter
Immer nen vollen Tank.
- ChrisP_3921
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Danke Peter,
Läpple hat also die Maschinen geliefert um die Stahl Body Panels zu formen. Die Maschinen standen wo? In Dunmurry in der Fabrik? Es macht ja keinen Sinn das Material in England bei BSC zu beziehen, dann nach Deutschland zu senden, es dort zu formen und danach nach Irland zu shippen... oder doch?
Läpple hat also die Maschinen geliefert um die Stahl Body Panels zu formen. Die Maschinen standen wo? In Dunmurry in der Fabrik? Es macht ja keinen Sinn das Material in England bei BSC zu beziehen, dann nach Deutschland zu senden, es dort zu formen und danach nach Irland zu shippen... oder doch?
Mit besten Grüßen
Chris & 3921
Chris & 3921
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Hallo Chris,ChrisP_3921 hat geschrieben:Danke Peter,
Läpple hat also die Maschinen geliefert um die Stahl Body Panels zu formen. Die Maschinen standen wo? In Dunmurry in der Fabrik? Es macht ja keinen Sinn das Material in England bei BSC zu beziehen, dann nach Deutschland zu senden, es dort zu formen und danach nach Irland zu shippen... oder doch?
ich hätte jetzt gesagt dass die Panels auch bei Läpple gepresst worden wären. Oder was heisst "stamped by Lapple" sonst ?
Aber wie genau kann man "Stainless Steel Illusion" nehmen ? Wenn die Pressen bei Läpple gestanden hätten, wie wären dann die Briten an die Formen gekommen um sie zu verscherbeln und versenken zu lassen ? Bisher dachte ich auch die Torsion bars wurden bei Grumann Aerospace gemacht. Im Buch steht dass die von Umbrako kamen. Oder hat Umbrako bloss die Stäbe gemacht und bei Grumman Aerospace wurden sie kryogenisch behandelt (10 mal um die eigene Achse gedreht).
Viele Grüße
Peter
Immer nen vollen Tank.
Re: Läpple, nur mal so...
Hier mal ein paar sehr interessante Infos rund um die Dies, Läpple und wo das Zeugs heute so rumliegt.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fea ... 97894.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.artfacts.net/en/exhibition/s ... rview.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Und hier hat einer die Bleche nachdengelt - von Hand wenn ich das richtig gelesen habe ?!?!?
http://www.kevinkavanaghgallery.ie/show ... ow=current#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nette Facts: (sollte das zu den Bildern gehören die nicht zu sehen sind ? wer geht in die Ausstellung und beschafft mir die Bilder ? )
1
The Montupet factory, Dunmurry, Belfast
Former location of the DeLorean Motor Company and site of production of the DMC-12 model between 1981-2.
Former site of the Läpple factory, Carlow
Opened in 1974, the company fabricated body parts for cars, including stainless steel sections for the DMC-12's body. Operations terminated here in 2007 due to high labour costs.
2
After bankruptcy of the DeLorean Motor Company, Läpple initiated the disposal of all tooling and body panels used in their contracted work. Material was dispersed to several scrap yards in 1984.
Galway Metal Company, Oranmore, Galway
Since 1969, scrap metal has been processed onsite and primarily exported. Tooling and panels were most likely sent to Spain or Portugal to be recycled.
Former site of the Hammond Lane Metal Company, Dublin
A scrap yard functioned at Rogerson's Quay between 1980-96, before the company relocated. Material from Läpple was exported to Sheffield and Kent to be melted down.
Haulbowline Industries, Passage West, Cork
Established in 1935 at the Victoria Dry Dock, the company now exports non-ferrous metals and animal feed.
3
The Severn Princess, Chepstow
Operated as a car ferry between 1959-66. The subsequent opening of the Severn Bridge made the boat obsolete and it was later sold to fisherman in the west of Ireland. Sometime in 1984 the boat collected twelve pieces of DeLorean tooling, large metal sections used to stamp out the shape of the car, from Haulbowline Industries in Cork and transported them to Galway. Found wrecked and abandoned, committed preservationists returned the boat to Chepstow in 1999, where it now awaits restoration.
Former site of Emerald Fisheries
A commercial fish farm, operated in Kilkieran Bay, Galway from 1984-2001. The company reused the heavy cast iron, attaching chains and sinking them into the seabed as anchors to hold in place a large fish cage on the surface. The farm can be seen out to sea on the left of the panoramic photograph. It is now abandoned.
4
Of twelve tooling presses present, three remain visible above the surface of the seabed. Two can be found 18 metres below the water surface at 53.29938N & 9.76344W. Another is visible 22 metres to the north at 53.30130N & 9.76483W. The remainder have sunk down into soft mud over the last twenty five years. Gushes into the bay from the Atlantic Ocean have kept silt at a minimum, and an ecosystem has grown around, over and under the metal. Seaweed forms a kind of patina over its' surface while several species of crabs and a lobster now reside in various casting cavities and hollow spaces of the tooling.
Dank an DMCTALK, John Dore und wen auch immer ich vergessen haben könnte.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fea ... 97894.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.artfacts.net/en/exhibition/s ... rview.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Und hier hat einer die Bleche nachdengelt - von Hand wenn ich das richtig gelesen habe ?!?!?
http://www.kevinkavanaghgallery.ie/show ... ow=current#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nette Facts: (sollte das zu den Bildern gehören die nicht zu sehen sind ? wer geht in die Ausstellung und beschafft mir die Bilder ? )
1
The Montupet factory, Dunmurry, Belfast
Former location of the DeLorean Motor Company and site of production of the DMC-12 model between 1981-2.
Former site of the Läpple factory, Carlow
Opened in 1974, the company fabricated body parts for cars, including stainless steel sections for the DMC-12's body. Operations terminated here in 2007 due to high labour costs.
2
After bankruptcy of the DeLorean Motor Company, Läpple initiated the disposal of all tooling and body panels used in their contracted work. Material was dispersed to several scrap yards in 1984.
Galway Metal Company, Oranmore, Galway
Since 1969, scrap metal has been processed onsite and primarily exported. Tooling and panels were most likely sent to Spain or Portugal to be recycled.
Former site of the Hammond Lane Metal Company, Dublin
A scrap yard functioned at Rogerson's Quay between 1980-96, before the company relocated. Material from Läpple was exported to Sheffield and Kent to be melted down.
Haulbowline Industries, Passage West, Cork
Established in 1935 at the Victoria Dry Dock, the company now exports non-ferrous metals and animal feed.
3
The Severn Princess, Chepstow
Operated as a car ferry between 1959-66. The subsequent opening of the Severn Bridge made the boat obsolete and it was later sold to fisherman in the west of Ireland. Sometime in 1984 the boat collected twelve pieces of DeLorean tooling, large metal sections used to stamp out the shape of the car, from Haulbowline Industries in Cork and transported them to Galway. Found wrecked and abandoned, committed preservationists returned the boat to Chepstow in 1999, where it now awaits restoration.
Former site of Emerald Fisheries
A commercial fish farm, operated in Kilkieran Bay, Galway from 1984-2001. The company reused the heavy cast iron, attaching chains and sinking them into the seabed as anchors to hold in place a large fish cage on the surface. The farm can be seen out to sea on the left of the panoramic photograph. It is now abandoned.
4
Of twelve tooling presses present, three remain visible above the surface of the seabed. Two can be found 18 metres below the water surface at 53.29938N & 9.76344W. Another is visible 22 metres to the north at 53.30130N & 9.76483W. The remainder have sunk down into soft mud over the last twenty five years. Gushes into the bay from the Atlantic Ocean have kept silt at a minimum, and an ecosystem has grown around, over and under the metal. Seaweed forms a kind of patina over its' surface while several species of crabs and a lobster now reside in various casting cavities and hollow spaces of the tooling.
Dank an DMCTALK, John Dore und wen auch immer ich vergessen haben könnte.
KEIN ALU !
Re: Läpple, nur mal so...
also gab es ein Werk im Irland von Läpple,in Carlow.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4pple_AG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4pple_AG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;