Re: Erfahrungen Reifenmarke?
Verfasst: 28. Mär 2010, 14:47
Geklaut von der DMCTALK - auch Lotus empfiehlt auf 225er hinten zu wechseln um nen guten Satz Reifen zu erhalten.
Einwürfe waren jedoch - der Esprit ist ein Mittelmotorfahrzeug !
Immerhin ist aber die Rede vonTÜV - ich hätte vor 10 Jahren nicht gedacht, daß die mal als positive Referenz
eingesetzt werden...ich dachte eher an Spaßbremsen, Spießer, übertrieben Bürokraten und solche Worte.
I'll throw in with Dave S.' later comments in favor of this setup. Not that I'm running it yet, only that it's my go-to setup when my Michelin Pilots age out or wear out. To bolster the wisdom of going that route one may wish to peruse the Lotus Esprit World webpage below. Owners of Esprits of our same vintage have the same problem we do - few or no high-performance 235/60-15s are made anymore. They did their homework directly with Lotus regarding alternatives. As most of us know, our chassis and suspension is a relative to the setup on the Esprit.
If any of our colleagues in the UK have been in touch with Lotus about the same topic please let the rest of us know. For now I assume that in the absence of desired high-perf 235/60-15s this Lotus HQ recommendation, plus reports from D owners and specialists, suggests that the 225/60-15 rears, matched up with 195/60-14 fronts, are the tire sizes of choice.
Obviously, we can ignore their front tire size specs, an inch larger dia. than ours.
No comment on the brands/models of tires they recommend at the end of the report, which may or may not also be available in 195/60-14 for the fronts. My comments are limited to the tire size recommendations from Lotus, which line up with the proposal above and with Dave's confirmation later in this thread.
Finally, nothing against running Cooper Cobras, Radial T/A's or any other correctly-sized "fresh" tires for the car. Running on old or worn rubber is a bad idea so we need to keep our eyes out for ways to run our cars safely.
Here is the website and below it are their findings, copied over directly.
http://www.lotusespritworld.com/EModels/TurboE.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Turbo Esprit Tyre News
Lotus Esprit World has managed to get a World Exclusive on testing done at Hethel on replacement tyres for Giugiaro Turbos. Lotus have now completed testing and are waiting for TUV approval, which is expect to be a formality. So any owners with Giugiaro Turbos can now buy and fit tyres tested and recommended by Lotus for their model. Below is the information direct from Lotus.
Lotus Turbo Esprit Tyres
Lotus has now completed the Tyre Investigation to find and approve an alternative to the currently specified Good Year Eagle NCT that is now obsolete. The sizes currently specified are: -
Front 195/60 VR 15
Rear 235/60 VR 15
The rear size of 235/60x15 is now a non-standard size and availability is very limited. Lotus has now completed an assessment of alternative tyres & sizes. In order to ensure vehicle compliance (tyre coverage & speedo calibration etc.) tyre choice was restricted. The new recommendation is as follows:
Front 195/60 VR 15
Rear 225/60 VR 15
The above specification has been tested & approved by Lotus. The TUV approval documentation has been completed and the application submitted to the relevant authority to cover the German Registered vehicles.
Several manufacturers tyres were tested. The following were considered to give the best handling & ride package and would be the products recommended by Lotus.
Pirelli P6000
Dunlop SP Sport 01
Other makes of tyres tested did not produce the handling / ride requirements that Lotus consider desirable for the Esprit Turbo vehicle.
Einwürfe waren jedoch - der Esprit ist ein Mittelmotorfahrzeug !
Immerhin ist aber die Rede vonTÜV - ich hätte vor 10 Jahren nicht gedacht, daß die mal als positive Referenz
eingesetzt werden...ich dachte eher an Spaßbremsen, Spießer, übertrieben Bürokraten und solche Worte.
I'll throw in with Dave S.' later comments in favor of this setup. Not that I'm running it yet, only that it's my go-to setup when my Michelin Pilots age out or wear out. To bolster the wisdom of going that route one may wish to peruse the Lotus Esprit World webpage below. Owners of Esprits of our same vintage have the same problem we do - few or no high-performance 235/60-15s are made anymore. They did their homework directly with Lotus regarding alternatives. As most of us know, our chassis and suspension is a relative to the setup on the Esprit.
If any of our colleagues in the UK have been in touch with Lotus about the same topic please let the rest of us know. For now I assume that in the absence of desired high-perf 235/60-15s this Lotus HQ recommendation, plus reports from D owners and specialists, suggests that the 225/60-15 rears, matched up with 195/60-14 fronts, are the tire sizes of choice.
Obviously, we can ignore their front tire size specs, an inch larger dia. than ours.
No comment on the brands/models of tires they recommend at the end of the report, which may or may not also be available in 195/60-14 for the fronts. My comments are limited to the tire size recommendations from Lotus, which line up with the proposal above and with Dave's confirmation later in this thread.
Finally, nothing against running Cooper Cobras, Radial T/A's or any other correctly-sized "fresh" tires for the car. Running on old or worn rubber is a bad idea so we need to keep our eyes out for ways to run our cars safely.
Here is the website and below it are their findings, copied over directly.
http://www.lotusespritworld.com/EModels/TurboE.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Turbo Esprit Tyre News
Lotus Esprit World has managed to get a World Exclusive on testing done at Hethel on replacement tyres for Giugiaro Turbos. Lotus have now completed testing and are waiting for TUV approval, which is expect to be a formality. So any owners with Giugiaro Turbos can now buy and fit tyres tested and recommended by Lotus for their model. Below is the information direct from Lotus.
Lotus Turbo Esprit Tyres
Lotus has now completed the Tyre Investigation to find and approve an alternative to the currently specified Good Year Eagle NCT that is now obsolete. The sizes currently specified are: -
Front 195/60 VR 15
Rear 235/60 VR 15
The rear size of 235/60x15 is now a non-standard size and availability is very limited. Lotus has now completed an assessment of alternative tyres & sizes. In order to ensure vehicle compliance (tyre coverage & speedo calibration etc.) tyre choice was restricted. The new recommendation is as follows:
Front 195/60 VR 15
Rear 225/60 VR 15
The above specification has been tested & approved by Lotus. The TUV approval documentation has been completed and the application submitted to the relevant authority to cover the German Registered vehicles.
Several manufacturers tyres were tested. The following were considered to give the best handling & ride package and would be the products recommended by Lotus.
Pirelli P6000
Dunlop SP Sport 01
Other makes of tyres tested did not produce the handling / ride requirements that Lotus consider desirable for the Esprit Turbo vehicle.